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lomuamart · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject:

To be fair, I really don't think it's all to do with developments, although I'm sure they may have a part to play.
I've been here for 9 years and the usual suspect roads flooded big time then. This is when HH was still that "small quaint fishing village'.
Whether there's any truth in this, but a friend years ago, who was into all that drainage stuff through work, simply told me that the pipes weren't large enough (someone's already said that on this thread) and when the tide's in the water's got nowhere to go.
I suppose, drainage-wise, HH's always been prehistoric?
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2dandan · Specialist Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 132

There was flash flooding all over the UK last week, so it's not just in backward old Thailand.

Guess · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:

I think you are right Lomu. The shifting of the terrain has been going on since before man arrived in Thailand. I believe that the housing developments have some effect but we have nothing like the concentration of buildings that many Asian, South American and US cities have.

The drainage mentioned is mainly to cater for surface water after heavy rainfall. The human and agricultural disposal is minor in comparison. The drainage system was adequate for the requirement when built. I don't believe the extra building has so much of an effect.

When this was a sleepy fishing village/market town the twice yearly floods would have been acceptable. Now that all the infrastructure is in place to cater for the tourism and ever increasing residents then the problem becomes more noticeable.

Increase in motoring accidents during high rainfall is inevitable. To completely re-build the surface drainage system (bigger and more pipes) in Hua Hin would cost vast amounts of public money. If we are just talking about saving lives and homes here I am sure that the money could be much better spent on other projects.

Firstly make roads safer by making it much more difficult to do stupid and dangerous things. The closing of the U-Turns in Petchakasem is a start. Fully functional camera enforced traffic signals at major junctions would get much better value than digging the whole area up for two years to bury meter diameter pipes.

The odd inconvenient flood aggravated by too many new housing developments pales into insignificance when compared to other project in China, the Philippines, Indonesia, Sub Saharan Africa and South America.

I think we are quite well off in Hua Hin with regards to extremes of weather conditions. It is one of the reasons I settled here.
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STEVE G · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:10 am Post subject:

Guess wrote:

gooze · Specialist Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 173

As a developer in Hua Hin the rules on drainage are quite clear. All roads that you construct have to have main drains that are the run in generally to a larger drain at the front of the development.

Under Thai law all you have to do is drain your own land, thus you effectivly move the problem on to the adjoining land. Whilst this may not please everybody that is the law. What would you have us do run 5KM drains from every project?.

As regards the de-forestation of areas this I do agree is a worry, I cannot speak for other developers, however we will plant at least one tree if not more for every treee that we remove. If all developers done likewise it would help a little.

This post is a general answer to previous posts on this thread, I would appreciate it if vairious members of this forum would refrain from attacking me again on the subject of my specific development on this thread.

chelsea · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:36 am Post subject:

Was in Koh Samui last year and they have a similar problem with so many properties being built on the hills surrounding the island, as soon as the big rain comes the water pours down the roads that have now been built and flood all of the town center and surrounding areas out even as far as the airport.

Also here is Australia, I have lived in Melbourne, Sydney, Perth and Cairns and same there as soon as really heavy rains come we have bad flash floods around city centres and some suburbs, so not only does it happen in Thailand.

Slowly they are replacing original drain systems with much larger pipes to accomodate the extra housing and suburbs that are now being built.
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SuperTonic · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:40 am Post subject:

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SuperTonic · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:45 am Post subject:

GLCQuantum · Specialist Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 161

Gooze,

This thread was started with no intention of attacking you or your development.

It was actually started to attack the 'sleeping police' but it was mentioned how housing developments are 1 OF THE CAUSES of flooding on the roads.

Neither do I know you or the wherabouts of your development so I could not give any factual evidence to support this where you are, but I do know of areas in Hua Hin that didn't have many houses before and having been built up with housing developments there has been a considerable increase in the water level on these roads.

gooze · Specialist Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 173

The biggest problem developers have is that there is no central drainage system in HH. If you go to soi 102 where many developments are allready finished, the tessabarn could connect the missing main drains down the road and aleviate the problem.

The biggest problem all developers face is the attitude by the Thai authorities, that is just give the problem to someone else. I dont know the answer maybe it should be that if you have 100 meters road frontage you should be made to install 200 meters of main drains. This would speed up the overall instalation time.

Would developers accept this?, well if it were law they would have no choice.

The biggest problem is lack of overall planning regulations. Ands thats comming from a developer.

SuperTonic · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:18 am Post subject:

Pundi64 · Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

The rain is coming!

weejimmy · Novice Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 5

what is life like in the rainy season? what should i look out for? esp transportation any advice

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