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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Smoked food Reply with quote

Who else likes smoked food? We Finns like quite a lot smoked fish and as for the wood chips alder (as there is tar in it) is the most popular one to give a nice taste (you can also add some juniper berries.) Has anybody tried any local wood? I sometimes get a delivery of alder from Finland but I'd like to experiement with something else. I remember reading that dried coconut shells might be an option. Has anybody tried smoking meat or other food here in LOS?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Smoking Reply with quote

I have a friend in Cha Am who uses coconut shells and rice husks
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Smoked food Reply with quote

Bamboo Grove wrote:
Who else likes smoked food? We Finns like quite a lot smoked fish and as for the wood chips alder (as there is tar in it) is the most popular one to give a nice taste (you can also add some juniper berries.) Has anybody tried any local wood? I sometimes get a delivery of alder from Finland but I'd like to experiement with something else. I remember reading that dried coconut shells might be an option. Has anybody tried smoking meat or other food here in LOS?


I love smoked food, and do a lot of smoking. Up until about a month a go I used to smoke all my own ham and bacon, and on the odd occasion, just for special orders I would smoke fish, Norwegian Cod and Haddock, and on occasion poultry, chicken and turkey. We have had to dismantle the smoke house, it is not deemed environmentally friendly in the town area, and a complete No, No for our factory licence, but I am currently building a state of the art hot and cold smoke house on the outskirts of Hua Hin. I really want to get into smoking cheese, (something I did in England very successfully). Smoked hard cheese and smoked fresh Goats Cheese, (my mouth is watering as I type).

You can get a supply of Alder chips? I’ll definitely contact you when we are finished building the smoke house, wow, what a real treat. In the past I have used coconut shells, but they tend to burn a bit to quick and raise the temperature a bit, it took some getting used to. I have also used many hardwood shavings for smoking including teak, which impart a lovely smell and taste, there is also a readily available supply of (Indian) apple wood shavings which are just a delight to come across, you will probably understand that I have yet to make a profit from my smoke room products as I like to investigate, experiment, and try out many things and seem to always end up eating them myself or sharing them with the select few who appreciate it. One Finnish man over a year ago said to me after a tryout of the Thai version of Smoked Mackerel - (Sabba?, excuse my Thai spelling), that this is too good to sell, and then paid for all the stock that I had smoked.

Smoked food is very specialised and unless you have a ready market for the final product, is unviable on a commercial basis in Thailand unless you are connected with a certain community that would use it.

However, for my own enjoyment and understanding of the learning process of smoked meats and fish, if you would really like to ‘dabble’ in this area, I would be a more than a willing student and operator for whatever wisdom or passion you could provide, and would be happy to impart my own knowledge of smoking to the process, and full usage of the facilties we are building. thumbs up
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am more or less still at the very early stages of experiementing myself. But I like all kinds of out door cooking activities (indoor as well.) Last time we smoked mackerel or saba as you said and also tuna. Both were good and the process was pretty simple (I only watched that time.) I have a small amount of alder chips at home so if you're interested we could try to do some smoked fish and/or meat sometime. Maybe after a dragon boat practise one Sunday?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i too am an amateur , but hoping to work a few weeks in a restaurant in galway does own smoked salmon, etc.

But to get back to post, we smoke trout and white fish, by first salting with coarse salt for a bit, then put a wire rack between two same size woks, a mix of dry raw rice, green tea, and sugar, stick the fish on the rack, one wok above one below, mix in bottom one and stick it on a very low gas ring.

A friend says can smoke one variety of bannana, a firm one, sugars it first instead of salting, then smokes them, suppose to be an interesting desert.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, this is 'hot' smoking. It is great with salmon. You can try all sorts of variants like including rosemary sprigs. A tip - place all the ingredients on a doubled up layer of tin foil, and then loosely lay another layer overthe top. Otherwise your lower wok will be sacrificed as the burnt sugar will ruin it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looove smoked food!
Would be great to check out your new place one day, JD.
This week there was an article in a Swedish paper about a falang who just opened a "smoking factory" on the outskirts of BKK. Importing fresh salmon from Norway, and smoking 10-15 tons a year -and business is growing! He apparently started smoking in the back yard in Phuket year's ago.

BG has the link to the article
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thanks elem. You have to be able to understand Swedish to read it, though. This person seems to be doing smoked salmon for quite large companies and hotels. I wonder if one is able to go and buy half a kilo from him. But an interesting article.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bamboo Grove!

I have already bought alder chips. They will arrive to HH in three weeks!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great, looking forward to some bbq afternoons.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaime wrote:
Yes, this is 'hot' smoking.


Is this a suitable method for cats?
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Or even SOI DOGS Shoot em up
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During my trips I always get the smoked salmon from the Hua Hin Ham and Bacon shop at least once during my stay coupled with one of their New Zealand filet steaks which are excellent
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if he is still around but a really pleasant East German,which now is obviously part of the federal republic used to run a bar a few years ago on the main drag called Check Point Charlie.Around 2001 he was unable, perhaps due to prohibitive cost,to buy smoked bacon and he actually started a smoke at the back of his bar and his product was perfection.I know he gave up the bar due to unreasonable rent demands but know he stayed on with his Thai partner and did intent to try to set up his own business but perhaps that never came to fruition but you never know
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. y'all are talkin about smokled food?
I hav my own good stry to tell about smoked food smoked food.
It was ub the early years of my study @ Stamford, My fellow Senior Students had ofteh catch some fishes from lake Stamoford in fornt of our Campus grounds, in the rainy season we catched those fishes with our bare hands. And around 9pm it's time to gather around the Grill and palce the humungous Fish in a floil on a grill so it doesn't stick on a Grill and flakes away.
Our "2 live Crew" or also known as "The Stanford Drinking Club (onofficial of course)" back then who organised the "Fish Fest" consists of 10 to 15 Students but sometimes other Freshmens and 2nd year Sophermores (Suffer mores) Students join with The Drinking Club and the crowd gows to more than 30 Students.
Yeah on a few nichts a week (exept Exam season) we all gather down under the second building and drink, listen to music and have fun without endangering anyone. And on certain days we organize these Fish fest (we had three of them). And we all are drinking eating Fish dipping in sauce and have fun!

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