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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: real ale v beer Reply with quote

what types of real ale if any can one find in HH ? Cheers lager drinkers will not have a clue what im talking about ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my understanding is correct the Real Ale is a Southern British, mainly English and Welsh produce.

Other countries such as Canada and the US and even France and Holland have tried to emulate it but are usually constrined by local brewing methods that do not allow them to produce Ale in the same way that the English and Welsh do. Hua Hin, no chance!!!

The only way you will get British Real Ale here is if you find someway of bringing it here yourself. The only beers remotely close are German imported Warsteiner Dark and Erdinger Dark. In Bangkok you can get imported Newcastle Brown in bottles and John Smiths in cans. It may be available in Hua Hin in the near future but not yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess, real ale is brewed worldwide these days, not least in the north of England!!! They just like it frothy and bottom poured up there.

A favourite of mine is Doom Bar Ale, from Sharps, in Cornwall. Batemans from Wainfleet in Lincs is another.

Belgian beer is magical and you can find great examples everywhere.

There are also some great micro-breweries in Oz - The Nelson Hotel at the Rocks in Sydney and a place in Picton in NSW, to name but two!

I can't see how it could be imported into HH, though? keg beers maybe? Yuk.

But bottle conditioned beers should be okay - given time to settle. I guess a bar owner with knoweldge of keeping beer could answer that one?

But if Coopers can export their sparkling ale (another favourite, first sampled at Port "somewhere" on the railway line between Alice and Adelaide in 1988) and pale ale etc. from Oz to the UK - both great beers, I can't see why it can't be done?

The flipside could be the cost?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me a pint of London Pride any time, failing that I drink anything going! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not realise that Real Ale covered so many different areas. I am well familiar with English, Dutch, French US and Welsh Real Ales and have sampled Ozzie (in Singapore) and Canadian. Living in Clifornia the only thing worth drinking was Micro Brewery beers and US made Fullers and Bass.

I have probable had the Cornish brew as I have spent a few holidays there when I have been in that part of the world. Not sure about the Yellow Belly stuff. Is it actually brewed from Hops or do they use Cauliflower leaves instead.

I have even tried the stuff that calls itself Real Ale in the cold northern wet part of England. It is a bit like Real Ale but is always topped by a creamy head which seems to serve no purpose other than make men and women with moustaches look absolutely ridiculous. It does however have the effect of making the local crumpet a bit frisky after ten pints or so and only costs about 1 pound per pint. The other good things about northern beer is that nothing goes to waste. All dregs are poured back into the drip tray and from there into the barrell in the cool cellar ready for the following day's breakfsast session.

Anyway when you have figure out how to get it into Hua Hin I will buy you a pint and introduce you to someone who can sell truck loads of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real ale... now your talking! You can (i'm informed) get speckled hen in Bangkok so shoudn't be a problem getting it here? Soooo much better than fizzy heineken which tastes like p**s. They also sell kilkenny in Crawfords although not strickly a real ale its better than nowt.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it would never be classed as a real ale in England, but Eddies Irish Pub normally has cans of John Smiths in the fridge.
I agree on the German beers, Erdinger is a fine beer, a few years ago I was at the beer festival in Erding ( its just near Munich airport) I had a fine time!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Guess"]If my understanding is correct the Real Ale is a Southern British, mainly English and Welsh produce.

Hey Guess
You will have all the Tartan Tammies from Scotland down your throat if you are not careful.Mcewens do an excellent pint which is called Ten Shilling which is hand pulled unlike its major product Extra.I am partial to London pride myself but Tetleys that is brewed in Yorkshire is probably the finest pint.Tetleys sold in Southern UK is brewed by Taylor Walker and does not cut it.As with Guiness,real ales do not travel well.Forget John Smith's in a can but old Sam Smith made a devilish pint.
Best Lager beer pumped from barrel using gas for me is Windhook Lager from Namibia,but was always partial to carlsberg in Los till they stopped the franchise.Beer lao best for me in Asia.This could be a good thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I stand corrected and I must admit I had forgotten the ten bob stuff. I have had it and it went down well.

Is this what the Sweaties call a pint of heavy?

In the South, McEwans Export was readily available but only at private clubs.

I never saw a hand pumped cask conditioned one though.

I have heard that Tetley's tastes better in the North. I always seem to end up in Greenall's places when I go up there. Not bad but nothing compared with what the Taffs and Cornish can brew. There is some pretty good stuff on the sout coast and in Wiltshire including Baz's Bonce Blower which at one tim eheld the world record for the strongest brew. It had the consistency of Port and the strength (24%). Purists argued though that Real Ale could not be made over 18% unless fortification was used.

The good news here is that Morlands Speckled Hen is available in Bangkok. The bad news is that out of all the beers availabe from the UK they got that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all pussies!!
Ruddles County straight out of a barrell at "The Jackson Stops" in Langham, Rutland.
I rest my case, for a while thumbs up
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all beginning to sound a bit "four yorkshiremen-ish" and that wasn't the intention after my post!

Anyway, the bottom line is if they can get speckled hen(shite) they must be able to get other non-bottle conditioned but still very drinkeable ales?

Amazed to hear Fullers is brewed in the States?

As a Londoner my preferences will always be for Youngs and Fullers, but worrying to hear Youngs maybe looking to relocate from Wandsorth, the beer will change!

Ruddles, Tetleys (north or south) are dirty words to me!!!

Now, where's my shoebox?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has to be Fullers for me. Best place for it is the Devonshire Arms which is on the coner of the brewery.

London Pride for sessions and ESB (wife beater to the locals) for the special occasion.

You don't be downwind of someone the day after a session of ESB though.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess for real ale fans in hot countries is what you need is an old style India Pale Ale, they were brewed for transport to the east indies after all.
I know most IPAs are just light bitters now, but Freeminers in Gloucester still brew one the original way, called Trafalgar, I don’t know if anybody exports it, maybe in bottles.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lomuamart wrote:
You're all pussies!!
Ruddles County straight out of a barrell at "The Jackson Stops" in Langham, Rutland.
I rest my case, for a while thumbs up


Hum, we, in Belgium, are really serious about our beers.
No matter what "lagger" or "ale", when it comes at 12° Alc.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting about the IPA being brewed for export to the East Indies. always thought it was brewed by Brits for consumption by Brits and their lackies on home turf. (i.e India).

Perhaps someone with a knowledge of brewing could come up with a TPA. Thailand Pale Ale. Bottles would be fine as it is very difficult to cater for draught beer here in Hua Hin mainly because of lack of space and turnover fluctuations.
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