Microsoft Visio

[Big Boy]

Two questions please:

1. When I visit Hua Hin in May I will be looking for a reliable copy of Microsoft Visio 2007. I've been reliably informed that I need the Home Plan edition. Can somebody please advise the most reliable place in Hua Hin to pick up a decent copy?

2. The version I use at work does both European Measurements (cms) and USA Measurements (feet/ins). Are either of these units of measurement recognised in Thailand - very relevant because for example if I were designing a kitchen, standard cabinet sizes might differ (I've been told that American feet/ins are different to UK feet/ins)? If not, what measurement is recognised universally in Thailand, and is it part of the standard Home Plan edition, or is there something extra that I need?

That was actually 4 questions
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Who said, "I've dumped PAFC for Eutopia at Liecester?"
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[Nereus]

[Terry]

BB

I've been using Visio since the Egyptians built the pyramids

Seriously

I have used it extensively to do building designs for my place and have become reasonably adept at using it. I have the the latest version available on copy as part of Office 2007. It is very good and I have had no problems with it so far - specifically Visio - the other stuff is crap - word, excel etc.

Bought my copy in Panthip BKK not sure where you can get in HH

All Thai codes and standards for building drawings are based on the SI system - both formats are included in Visio - you just select what units you want to work in before each session.

If you need anything motre specific - pm me and I'll try and help.

The difference between US and English inches DOES exist. I cannot recall how it happened (Was taught the facts way back as a student but can't remember).

It was first noticed apparantly during WW1. English spanners would not fit US machinery as generally the American Inch is less than the English. This accounts for the US gallon being smaller than than the English etc etc

NO JOKES ABOUT APPENDAGES PLEASE
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Terry Theobald
Hua Hin Fishing Lodge
Tel:- 081-927-1271 (Eng / Thai)
089-837-4079 (Eng)

Come on over - you might get hooked.

www.huahinfishing.com
www.huahinfishingtours.com

[Nereus]

[Terry]

Nereus

From the second of the two links that you provided

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It depends on what you are measuring, beleive it or not. If you are asking because you have 2 spanners, or wrenches, that show the same size markings, but are very obviously different, then you have one "Imperial" measurement and one "Across the Flats" measurement.
Imperial measurements got smaller due to shaving off vital fractions of metal on nuts and bolt heads (the bit you use a spanner on) as part of the war effort during World War 2. Across the flats measurement is the American Standard. As they didn't suffer the same shortages as we did during the war years, they were able to retain the same standard measurements.
So in answer to your question, an American inch is the same as a Brittish inch, except when it is a fraction of an inch, and someone else has already given you the conversion rate.

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yes they are the same and it's 25.4 mm. It's US gallons that are different than imperial (uk) ones - uk's are bigger.


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The above quotes are what I was referring to - my memory being somewhat affected by old age!

So it seems there is SOME truth in what I said.

I still don't understand why a US Gallon should be different other than of course as a volumetric measure - if the basic unit is different then so the volume will also differ

Interesting stuff
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Terry Theobald
Hua Hin Fishing Lodge
Tel:- 081-927-1271 (Eng / Thai)
089-837-4079 (Eng)

Come on over - you might get hooked.

www.huahinfishing.com
www.huahinfishingtours.com

[STEVE G]

Terry, you wouldn’t believe this but it’s still possible to come across this problem in my job in Aviation.
There are some very old British built airplanes still flying around the world such as the HS748 that used components derived from stuff made in WWII. On these you can still find the odd bolt made to BSW (British Standard Whitworth) sizes that a standard Imperial spanner doesn’t fit.
In fact I have a Britool, ½ “ BSW spanner in my tool-case at home waiting for the next time I need it.
There were also others such as BSF (British standard Fine) and BSP (British Standard Pipe) that I’m sure are still found in some applications, and Bristol wrenches which were an early form of spline drive.
All this stuff harkens back to the long gone days of British engineering, in fact I think Whitworth was the inventor of the screw cutting lathe.

[Terry]

Crikey Steve - you are reminding me of my apprenticeship days and studies for ONC, HNC and eventually Degree in Mech Eng.

Whitworth is indeed credited with the invention of the screw cutting lathe.
I still have some A/F spanners somewhere and recall only too well the BSW and BSF threadforms having spent many of my early years working a screw cutting lathe.

British Standard Pipe (BSP) was based on the bore of the pipe measured in inches. The result was that a 2"BSP spanner (For eg) was bloody huge.

As far as I recall the Gas industry adopted the same nomenclature / sizing for gas pipes.

The standard 'blue' plastic pipe here in LOS is based on the BSP sizing principle in that it will be marked 1" or 25mm. 3/4" or 15mm & so on.
These sizes refer to the bore of the pipe and not the O/D or outside diameter. Said diameters can vary depending on 'thin' or 'thick' walled piping.
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Terry Theobald
Hua Hin Fishing Lodge
Tel:- 081-927-1271 (Eng / Thai)
089-837-4079 (Eng)

Come on over - you might get hooked.

www.huahinfishing.com
www.huahinfishingtours.com

[Big Boy]

Thank you very much for the replies so far. If the Thais tend to use Cms, then I guess I need the European standard; or is SI something different again?

Anybody got any ideas where I will pick up a decent copy in Hua Hin please?

Terry, do you use the Home Plan edition, or something different?
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Green Army position 10 2007/08
Who said, "I've dumped PAFC for Eutopia at Liecester?"
Ian Holloway (job seeker extrordanair)

[Terry]

BB

SI stands for Systeme Internationale i.e. what you would refer to as 'METRIC'

Not sure of your best 'shop' in HH - I get most of mine from BKK

Never seen 'Home Plan' edition. Maybe it's a cut back version for UK market. The version I have covers home plans, flow charts, schedules org charts etc etc.

I DO however tend to use home plan section most of the time.

VERY expensive - THB 300 in Panthip
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Terry Theobald
Hua Hin Fishing Lodge
Tel:- 081-927-1271 (Eng / Thai)
089-837-4079 (Eng)

Come on over - you might get hooked.

www.huahinfishing.com
www.huahinfishingtours.com

[Big Boy]

Thanks Terry - the Home Plan edition is meant to be the all singing, all dancing version.
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Green Army position 10 2007/08
Who said, "I've dumped PAFC for Eutopia at Liecester?"
Ian Holloway (job seeker extrordanair)

[Big Boy]

Looks as if it will have to be Panthip Plaza then .

Never having been there before, is there anywhere within the Plaza in particular, or is it just a matter of wandering around to find somebody who sells what I need? Is there any way of ensuring that I get a decent copy (short of turning up with a laptop and loading it there and then)?

I'll probably do the trip by train. Can anybody advise me how to get from the train station to Panthip Plaza please?

I am not a fan of Bangkok in any way, so I want to be in and out as fast as I can.
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Green Army position 10 2007/08
Who said, "I've dumped PAFC for Eutopia at Liecester?"
Ian Holloway (job seeker extrordanair)

[Francois]

[Big Boy]

Thank you very much Francois
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Green Army position 10 2007/08
Who said, "I've dumped PAFC for Eutopia at Liecester?"
Ian Holloway (job seeker extrordanair)

[Francois]

[Nereus]