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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Little Known Thai History? Reply with quote

The below is from a friend who is meticulous concerning his research and facts and knows his history concerning Asia. It's a bit of a rant concerning a well known author of regular internet articles here in the Realm who's name I've removed. Perhaps some of the facts stated are new and interesting info to some. Pete Cheers
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As you know, I do not like XXXX attitude. If he is so fed up with
the Thais and Thailand, then why doesn't he just leave?

In truth, he hasn't learned that there are common roots between Thai and
Falang, as well as Thai and Chinese.

He refers to KaratchaKahn (slaves of the king) and to the past kings
without seeing the whole truth.

First Ratchakahn, as a word, is as much English or French or Arabic or
Hindi, as it is Thai. The word originates from Raja (India) and Khan
(Arabia).

The current King renounced his US citizenship, but the US refused to accept
his declaration. Therefore, all of his children and grandchildren are US
citizens.

General Chakri, also known as Rama I (Raja-Khan I), is reported to have
been half Chinese, with one great grandfather being Portuguese, so the Thai
royal family is of mixed Thai, Chinese and Falang blood. The Thai
Historians usually ignore those facts.

Add to that the new idea that the first Qin (Chinese) Emperor Chee Huang
(Worried Point) was actually Tai, from the north end of NanChao and you
realize that the Chinese owe their start to the Tai people of the provinces
of Yunnan (million homes) and ShanXi (honorable mountain). So why not let the children return home.

However, XXXX did share much valuable information in his article.
However, I think most western foreigners have understood that the Chinese,
with government and even Royal help, have been raping Thailand for
centuries.

Since the days of Constantine Falcon, Greek adventurer and Prime Minister
of Siam, those groups in power have been careful to punish Falangs for their
own crimes. Constantine was executed, not for doing anything wrong, or for
corruption, but for doing things right! The new King preferred the old
status quo, so instead of destroying corruption, he had the greatest
influence for the public good put to death.

Beware of doing good in Thailand for fear that you may cross paths with
the powerful who are making money from misery and corruption.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about Shi Huang Di when you mention the first Qin emperor. I can't see him being a tai as he lived quite far away from Nan Chao (which was in present day Yunnan and southern parts of Sichuan.
http://depts.washington.edu/chinaciv/1xarzhou.htm
But yes, I've read some Thai history books and they are very selective in the way they tell things.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will pass that along to the original author BG and see what he comes back with. Pete
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey grab yourself a book called 'A History of Thailand' written byChris Baker x professor at Cambridge University but has lived here for over 20 years, and Pasuk Phongpaichit a professor at Chulalongkorn university here in Thailand.

It's a bit heavy but very imformative

As an xpat who has lived in Africa and now Thailand I feel duty bound to learn their history and hence there culture.

I'm now heavily into reading about Bhuddism. Only then will you get remotely close to where they are coming from
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richard wrote:
I'm now heavily into reading about Bhuddism. Only then will you get remotely close to where they are coming from


How about animism? There's a heavy dose of it in Thai Buddhism.
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