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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3091 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:45 am Post subject: |
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BTW I forgot to mention, I am on the fence about Potatoes and Parsnips at the moment. I need to sleep to get my head round the issue. _________________
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Randy Cornhole Ace


Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 1653 Location: Deep jungles of Issan
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Just a couple of thoughts - I glanced at the Portugal game the other day. I think Louis Figo took a shot at goal and an opposing player clearly fended it off the line using his arm. The ref did not even give a penalty! the guy should have been sent off. My point is that woudn't a video ref be a good idea as in Rugby?
I have been to twickenham many times to watch internationals and club games alike. All the players call the ref boss or sir or a word with similar meaning, whilst watching football I am appaled at the way the players react to the ref ganging up on him and being quite threatning. If any player gives the ref lip in Rugby (yes it does happen) the penalty kick is moved forward 10 yards and sometimes the player is sent off for 10 mins.
I'd love to see the refs in football move free kicks forward 10 yards and sin bin mouthy players for 10 mins. That would shut the childish buggers up.  _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly!
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Dangerous Specialist


Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 106 Location: Doghouse, England
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Good point Randy, I totally agree with you. Football could gain a lot from rugby as for as discipline goes _________________ The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket. |
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3091 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Yes, and tennis and cricket.
I remember sitting in a bar one night with a lot of colleagues in Dublin, when we did not have much work on, and we came up with a system that ensured that referees were informed when a ball crossed any line, if a player was off side, and would provide video repeats on a hand held from as many angles as was deemed necessary.
We submitted a proposal to the FA. The reply was that they were already looking into it but had idenitified a more modern solution.
That all took place in 1994.
My guess is that if the FA had adopted the idea it would have spread to FIFA.
Of course,the real reason for the FA's dismissal was that were all tied up in negotiations regarding media rights with some OZ media mogul. Or is it Mongol. _________________
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Jaime Ace


Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1898 Location: Sh*t Creek
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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It was said to have originated when a boy at Rugby School in Rugby, England, picked up and carried the ball during a game of football in 1823. |
And the boy, William Webb Ellis, was ........ American! Apparently a brat who liked his own way, hence the picking up of the ball in a petulant fit.
By the way, much of the game's current format was developed by Cardiff RFC in the late 19th Century, including the 8 man scrum and the three-quarter line up. Frank Hancock of Cardiff & Wales was credited with inventing the three quarter system. His family were brewers and Hancock's HB (Home Brew) can still be found in pubs around Cardiff & South Wales. The Hancock's brewery in Cardiff was recently taken over by Brains Brewery, who usurped the popularity of Hancocks in the later half of the 20th Century. Hancocks is still brewed elsewhere by Bass - but it ain't the same....
Beer & rugby - two sides of the same coin!  _________________ "The man who never made a mistake never did bugger all" - Old Welsh proverb
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Dangerous Specialist


Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 106 Location: Doghouse, England
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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A short history lesson on the start of Rugby.
1804:- James Ellis married Ann Webb of Bristol at St Peter’s, Exeter. James served in the 18th Royal Irish Regiment and later the 1st Dragoon Guards with whom he was stationed at Dundalk, Clonmel and Dublin Ireland.
1807:- William Webb Ellis was born in Salford, Manchester as second son to James and Ann. No birth certificate has been located so far but William himself has recorded that he was born in Manchester.
1812:- James Ellis is killed in action at the battle of Albuera on the 16th May. Ann was awarded a pension of 10 pounds for each of her boys and moved to Rugby so her sons could be enrolled into Rugby School.
1823:- William Webb Ellis runs with the ball in his hands.
1839:- At Cambridge University, an old Rugbeian, Mr Arthur Pell got a rugby team together. The Old Rugbeians challenged the Old Etonians to a game of football and controversy at the Rugbeians’ use of hands led to representatives of the major public schools meeting to draw up the ‘Cambridge Rules’
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Jaime Ace


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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Always thought he was American but will bow to your convincing research! _________________ "The man who never made a mistake never did bugger all" - Old Welsh proverb
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3091 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Good stuff Jaime & Dangerous,
BTW Jaime you never did answer my question regarding the use of Royal in the name Ystrad Mynach.
I have a couple of friends from just down the road and they do not know either. _________________
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Jaime Ace


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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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I am being facetious, as in 'Royal Aberflyarff' or 'Royal Abertinfoyle.' The only royalty around here are the king prawns at Tesco. Now a question for you - where are your mates from? If it's further than the next valley then it may as well be on the moon but if its nearer then maybe we have some mutual friends! !
As for my previous post, I forgot to also mention that Brains, current occupants of the old Hancock's brewery, are the current shirt sponsors of the Welsh team. I think the players are injected with Brains beer before each match ! _________________ "The man who never made a mistake never did bugger all" - Old Welsh proverb
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3091 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| Jaime wrote: | - where are your mates from? If it's further than the next valley then it may as well be on the moon but if its nearer then maybe we have some mutual friends! !
As for my previous post, I forgot to also mention that Brains, current occupants of the old Hancock's brewery, are the current shirt sponsors of the Welsh team. I think the players are injected with Brains beer before each match ! |
1. They are from Clydach and Glyncorrwyg (I hope I have spelt them right). My lovely old auntie is from Pontypridd. I know what you mean, another valley another world. (I hope I got the spellngs right, I have a big enough problem with English).
2. As for Brains, I thought they were a scouse brewery. _________________
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Jaime Ace


Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1898 Location: Sh*t Creek
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Guess wrote: | | They are from Clydach and Glyncorrwyg. |
Miles from here - down Swansea & Port Talbot way about an hour down the M4 motorway.
| Guess wrote: | | As for Brains, I thought they were a scouse brewery. |
And you with an Auntie from Ponty (not so far from Ystrad Mynach or Cardiff) .... tsk tsk.... shame on you! A Cardiff institution and still owned by the Brains family as far as I know.
As the ads used to say - "It's Brains you want!"  _________________ "The man who never made a mistake never did bugger all" - Old Welsh proverb
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Randy Cornhole Ace


Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 1653 Location: Deep jungles of Issan
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Could you imagine if mr Ellis was a septic! we'd never hear the end of it...........
Apparently i heard that mrs Gilbert wife of mr Gilbert (of ball fame) Died whilst blowing up an early ball with her mouth, for they were pigs bladders in the early days! She developed some sort of pig infection.
Oink indeed! _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly!
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Jaime Ace


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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Well,
That was the official story but what part of the pig was she really blowing...!?
The Blues were stuffed again at the weekend .... hurry up Jonah! _________________ "The man who never made a mistake never did bugger all" - Old Welsh proverb
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