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It would just mean that you'd have to import your CD's again using iTunes but probably not enough time before the trip up country unless your collection is small! I think there is a way to convert too but never had to so don't know how I'm afraid.
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richard is quoting 40Gb on his laptop to download. Therefore if it's not in the correct format, it aint going to be easy to do by the weekend' and its an awful lot to duplicate (in terms of hard disc space). However, there'll probably be litle else to do up North (if its anything like my wife's village), so it could keep him occupied over the festive period.
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buksida
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richard, you could always simply buy a standard generic MP3 player for half the price that doesn't force you to convert your file system or use its software 
theres a whole list of em here:
http://www.shop4thai.com/en/category/?cat=26
40GB data transfer via USB should take about half an hour on a half decent machine.
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| buksida wrote: | richard, you could always simply buy a standard generic MP3 player for
half the price that doesn't force you to convert your file system or use its software |
This precisely is the reason I'll never, ever again deal with iPods nor any other Mac stuff.
Problems, incompatibility and enormous amount of work for double the price.
Generics humbly running on windows without any uppity authonomy is the way to go. |
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I have used mac and indeed ipod all my computer life. To me it is the best, but not to everyone's taste. perhaps you are better off with a generic copy. Who knows? certainly you will save money, but I have used the ipod for 4 years and it is a piece of art and works well. you pays your money and takes your choice....
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My son has used generic copies (20Gb minimum) for a few years up until a few weeks ago. I always ensured that I took out the extended guarantee - in the first place because it was new technology that I didn't trust. In the second and subsequent instance it was because of bad experiences - the longest any generic copy lasted him was 11 months.
We always got our money back, and bought something else - he always avoided the iPod because of the iTunes restrictions. On this occassion, the iPod seemed to be the best value option. To date he is delighted with it, and it is working fine.
For Jaime: When he came home from school, I told him what you had said, and he said, "I know." Just me talking through my a*se again. 
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| Big Boy wrote: | | For Jaime: When he came home from school, I told him what you had said, and he said, "I know." Just me talking through my a*se again. |
Ha Ha! Don't worry - I get it too!
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| Randy Cornhole wrote: | | ....I have used the ipod for 4 years and it is a piece of art and works well. you pays your money and takes your choice.... |
Couldn't agree more. It is a beautifully engineered object.
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| Farang wrote: | | buksida wrote: | richard, you could always simply buy a standard generic MP3 player for
half the price that doesn't force you to convert your file system or use its software |
This precisely is the reason I'll never, ever again deal with iPods nor any other Mac stuff.
Problems, incompatibility and enormous amount of work for double the price.
Generics humbly running on windows without any uppity authonomy is the way to go. |
buksida & Farang,
I know the other Mac users on here have not risen to your bait, but almost everything Mac produces works without the need for 'Hotfixes', 'Security updates' or the ever present threat of the system closing down because of an unknown error. 'Forcing' you to use iTunes is hardy a chore, especially as it is free and works better than any music player I have ever seen for Windows. The only reason you two see Mac the way you do is because of Microsoft's highly successful campaign in it's early days to effectively eliminate all competition to Windows so there was almost no choice, but it was Windows who introduced incompatible formats such as WMA and WMV - the industry standard for music is mp3 and it's offshoots which is what the iPod uses. The iPod has become the most popular portable music player through customer satisfaction, and this is slowly translating into the computer world as well, and Apple have been nice enough to allow the far inferior Windows to be able to run on new Macs as well.  |
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buksida
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Listen Mac-heads, stop throwing your ipods out of your prams, this has nothing to do with Mac vs Windows.
Its all about standards and ease of use which is of paramount importance to a customer. By generic I'm refering to Sony, Samsung, Creative or any other high quality brand name - not a cheap market stall version.
MP3 players do not need patches, they play a standard format of music - thats all they do. They should not force you to install their software on your computer or make you change your file system to what they like.
I've tried both Ipods and regular players, I'll never touch an Ipod again after it decided it wanted to re-arrange my music collection, change the filing system then tell me what I can and can't play on it because iTunes has compatibility problems or it thinks I *may* have obtained this MP3 file illegally online.
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| buksida wrote: | Listen Mac-heads, stop throwing your ipods out of your prams, this has nothing to do with Mac vs Windows.
Its all about standards and ease of use which is of paramount importance to a customer. By generic I'm refering to Sony, Samsung, Creative or any other high quality brand name - not a cheap market stall version.
MP3 players do not need patches, they play a standard format of music - thats all they do. They should not force you to install their software on your computer or make you change your file system to what they like.
I've tried both Ipods and regular players, I'll never touch an Ipod again after it decided it wanted to re-arrange my music collection, change the filing system then tell me what I can and can't play on it because iTunes has compatibility problems or it thinks I *may* have obtained this MP3 file illegally online.
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Hey I didn't start it - Farang had an unwarranted and untruthful rant against Apple, Macs and iPods prompted by your unwarranted and incorrect assertions. And I have used all sorts of computers over the years, and music players, and I am calling it as i have found it. The issues you have with iTunes is either because it is the Windows version or you have not learned how to use it properly (which i doubt), as I have never had any of the issues you are talking about. The compatibility issue is a Windows one as I have already stated - they created their own music files, against the industry standard mp3 as they wanted to dominate that market as well but failed. How long ago were you trying iTunes anyway, because it has been improved several times over the years on the Mac (and I assume the Windows version too, unlike things like MSN Messenger and Word which are still in their 2004 version for Mac having not been updated by the mighty Microsoft). Incidentally i have a Samsung mp3 player that works very well with my Mac so i would suggest that the problem is Windows not iTunes or the iPod.  |
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buksida
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Wrong again - iTunes wanted to change my file system, no other media player software does that. I now use Winamp which does exactly what I want it to.
As stated previously, this is about MP3 players which should do what the user wants and nothing more.
I hate M$ as much as the next person, I spend most of my working days trying to fix it for other people.
What I hate even more is a 3rd party device (MP3 player) trying to dictate how I manage my music and what I listen to it with. This is exactly what an Ipod does. Each to their own and maybe some like being told how to run their system but I'm a control freak!
I'm not saying Ipods or Macs are bad, I'm just offering richard an alternative suggestion following all the posts about files and compatibility in this thread. I also didnt ask for a torrent of defensive rants about how crap Windows is and how great Macs are.
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Well enough of that, have a very Mac'y Xmas Everybody.
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Big Boy
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richard,
Out of interest, what did you decide to do in the end? Did you settle for an iPod, goe for Generic copy or just decide to dump the whole idea?
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