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JimboPSM Specialist


Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 154 Location: Isle of Man (UK) & Udon Thani
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| johnnyk wrote: | Opening a bar is a surefire winner  |
If you want to make a small fortune with a bar, just make sure you start with a large fortune  |
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Rob W Member

Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 63 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
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I would of thought that some of the developers would like some one with building experience as a sort of site agent. they appear to only employ sales staff and let the builders get on with it.
I have found errors in my place every visit I have made, all the drawing are correct but the builder is using ones for another house / no drawings at all.
The rework alone would im sure pay a wage.
doubt it would be at uk rates but would cover beer money I would guess.
whether a work permit for this job would be given is another thing. |
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johnnyk Ace

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1002
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Rob W wrote: | I would of thought that some of the developers would like some one with building experience as a sort of site agent. they appear to only employ sales staff and let the builders get on with it.
I have found errors in my place every visit I have made, all the drawing are correct but the builder is using ones for another house / no drawings at all.
The rework alone would im sure pay a wage.
doubt it would be at uk rates but would cover beer money I would guess.
whether a work permit for this job would be given is another thing. |
Yes, the Thai builders and electricians will go for that in a big way.
I wonder why they haven't thought of it.
Of course it could result in a fatal car or motocy accident. |
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Winkie Professional


Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 329 Location: Bangkok & Cha Am
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Huh? _________________ Only the crumbliest, flakiest Winkie.... |
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Mack111 Specialist

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 247 Location: KL and sometimes HH
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| JimboPSM wrote: | | johnnyk wrote: | Opening a bar is a surefire winner  |
If you want to make a small fortune with a bar, just make sure you start with a large fortune  |
Oh so true!!! |
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johnnyk Ace

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1002
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Rule #1 in Thailand:
DO NOT mess with someone else's rice bowl.  |
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Rob W Member

Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 63 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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[quote="johnnykOf course it could result in a fatal car or motocy accident.[/quote]
Of course a site agent would not be popular with the builder at first but I would have thought the developer would like someone to keep an eye on them . save all the grief when the owner arrives and its not as the agreed plans.
Im lucky I have a friend who lets me know what's going on with the build in Thailand so i can hopefully get to the house and sort out errors before its to late.
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Mack111 Specialist

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 247 Location: KL and sometimes HH
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Rob
Its dose make sense but the thing about common sense in Thailand is its not very common.
I can remember when I bought my house in HH I think the whole population of the estate was giving the developer grief but he seemed to just ride the storm and never gave a shxt!
I must admit knowing what i know now it would attract me to a developer is i new he had a competent guy looking after things |
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johnnyk Ace

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1002
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Rob W
Many of them do employ site agents to make sure little problems are caught before they become big problems.
These people, if they are falang, do not/should not make repairs or engage in trades.
Site agents are legit because they can speak other languages and liaise with customers. Doing building work is not legit and is messing with a Thai's rice bowl. |
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nevets Professional

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 376
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: ELECTRICIAN IN THAILAND |
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I am a maintenance/ installation electrician - industrial -- commercial -- domestic , time served city&guild 40yrs experience .But the CV is no good in the land of smiles and i make my money elsewhere.
So anyone thinking of working in the trade dont bother, and the Thai sparkys are useless and cant even do a 2 way switch. The Thai electrical system is where the UK was 45yrs ago and is not moving up very fast. Because Thailand number one and they no better than falang stupid people. |
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gooze Specialist

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Ive numerous friends who work all over Thailand as "project managers" I have been asked to do this a number of times both fot Thai and Farrang developers. Generally the Thais have no problem with this as it saves them time over the house build as they only then have to re-do 65% of the work that was carried out when the farrang was not there!.
Only joking, The Thais can build but the mayjority need farrang supervision as they are used to building for "Thais".
If anyone needs a job I have a vacancy for either a Thai project manager who speaks good English or an English PM who speaks good Thai. In an ideal world I would much rather employ a Thai on near farrang wages cuts out the work permit bollocks.
PM if anyone interested.
Hope this little advertisement is OK with the Mods if not sorry and feel free to delete it. |
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Nereus Professional

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 487 Location: Hua Hin
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: Re: ELECTRICIAN IN THAILAND |
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| nevets wrote: | | Because Thailand number one and they no better than falang stupid people. |
I guess you mean "know", rather than what you have written.
Whatever, you are exactly correct, and it applies to a lot more than just the building trade! The latest comment that I had was that: it is better to water the lawn in the heat of the day, as in Thailand there is no such thing as evaporation! I guess the fact that gravity does not work here has something to do with it!
If you think about it a bit, and sit back and observe some of the antics, it becomes even more obvious that they truly believe that "my way" is the only way.  _________________ May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil know`s you`re dead! |
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gooze Specialist

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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JohnnyK wrote
"Yes, the Thai builders and electricians will go for that in a big way.
I wonder why they haven't thought of it.
Of course it could result in a fatal car or motocy accident."
Common practice in Thailand that a farrang proiject manager will work alongside a Thai project manager, Work permits are available and obtainable for this.
Bassed on Johnnyks comments none of us unless world renowned brain sergeons should hold work permits. Most of us have work permits on the grounds that we are better able to do a specific job and therfore further educate the Thais whom we employ. Taking this a step further how does an estate agent get a work permit?. It is illegal for a farrang to sell property. However it is legal for a farrang to translate for a Thai who sells property and advise on a farrang perspective to buying a property here.
Yes I agree with the bowl of rice scenairio but I think to say that a farrang project manager would not be appreciated and would come to a sticky end is paranoya and somewhat irresponsible to suggest. I also think although this was not your reasoning in my oppinion that it insults the Thai people and is a little degrading to Thai construction workers whom in my experience have been more than happy to learn and institute farrang working methods and standards when shown how and having been explained the reasons why.
One should allways remember that we have a lot to learn from the Thais and likewise the Thais from us. Get out of your glass bubble and give these people the chance that they deserve, your comments are offensive and narrow minded to Thai people and I would suggest that you are neither a builder or a person who understands how Thai builders work or think maybe a week on site with them and you might understand a little more hence you would not hopefully make comments such as this again. |
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gaijin Specialist

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 141 Location: MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with Winkie. |
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