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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, it is an off take of Jamie, right?


Other way round Pedro. In English Jamie is the diminutive form of James. Jaime however, is the Spanish form of James. In Spanish, therefore, the diminutive English form Jamie would become Jaimito!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, it is an off take of Jamie, right?


Other way round Pedro. In English Jamie is the diminutive form of James. Jaime however, is the Spanish form of James. In Spanish, therefore, the diminutive English form Jamie would become Jaimito!

Uner-sa-tan?


Chai mio, but once again, Jaimito sounds Japanese? Hai, Jai mi to, wakarimasu? Domo. Very Happy Pete
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Domo arigato, Anjin San!

P.S. It probably sounds less Japanese if you pronounce the gutteral 'j' correctly.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guys,

If Piggy is the same person that I think she is, she is indeed a Thai lady (a very nice one) married to a Western man.

I think she may have enlisted his help in expressing her views in eloquent English that could be understood by all. This lady has a lot of initiative! Very Happy


Hi Dawn, if you were thinking of me, you guessed right with the identity, but I was as surprised to see this post as anyone!

I do know, however, where she got some of it from. But it does express her views.

She does read English very well - reads the books I have when I'm finished with them - and writes it okay as well. If we ever do manage to get a visa for her to come to the UK , then she will master the language in no time.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beside Piggy’s brilliant English-skills, I realize absolutely that every culture has own rules in view of the dowry.

Honestly I must confess, that I never needed to pay anything to the parents of my passed and also actual Thai-wife.
On the other side I also didn't ask for any dowry, or gifts from my parents-in-law.

In my eyes Thai-customs aren't more superior to western customs.
But, there is also absolutely no reason to start a "fight of cultures" in a mixed relationship.
For me was it the easiest way to avoid problems, that nobody requires for the execution of his cultural characteristics.... and it was working both times.
Of course, it took a little bit time to explain the difference between Farang-customs and Thai-customs, but there was the understanding at last, that the Thai-daughter should lead a hopefully better life, than to destroy her future by cultural stubbornness.

If Thai-parents really love their daughters, and don't want to use them as an investment only, there won't be any big problems to circumvent the Thai-customs of dowry in mutual consent.

If a farang submit his self without any comment, he doesn't need to wonder that he'll pay whatever his family-in-law expect him to pay!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah,

Now that you have woken up I would like to ask a purely hypotheical question bearing in mind that ai am of course very happily marrid to a lady who comes along way from Udon Thani. In fact she was born closer to me than Udon.

If I wanted to marry you what sort of dowry would I expect to pay or would we do it the Indian way. BTW you can not count the dogs apart for a mate for my randy little mongrel of course.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah...Good morning, mate....I've an early appointment today...but no worries, I won't change my every-day-rhythm too often! Wink

About your question...hmmm...do you have some camels to offer???...hypothetically, of course
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: dowry Reply with quote

Hello, you're all mistake about my english , i'm not the teach an universary , but about the post of the dowry i have to read in the " thailand Fever " book story , Its a road map for Thaia-Western relationship
i think this book can help many people to understand Thai tradition and western tradition . piggy Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Dowry Reply with quote

Jaime, my apologies. On scanning your name I registered it was not spelt like the UK Jamie but I think my brain associated it with the French word.

If the book Piggy is referring to is the one where one page is in English and the opposite page saying the same thing in Thai then I also recommend it to all Westerners and Thai partners. I found it very informative and it also explains Western cultures to the Thai reader. thumbs up
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's that book. It is very good, but can be amusing in places if the Westerner is female & the male Thai Very Happy

Basic concept is good and IMHO more people in Thai/farang relationships should read it!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking of camels,

I was once offered 14 camels and 4 pairs of sandles for my ex-wife

This was in Tunisia 30 years ago just before we married. Wish I'd taken the offer now!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Talking of camels,

I was once offered 14 camels and 4 pairs of sandles for my ex-wife

This was in Tunisia 30 years ago just before we married. Wish I'd taken the offer now!!


Geez, I'd have it cheaper to pay that to someone to marry my ex, and stop my alimony!!

I once had the idea of hiring a Brad Pitt look-alike to wine, dine, etc, my ex wife, with the idea they cohabitate, and I get proof. With that the courts would stop my alimony. Very Happy

I recently expressed this idea to a client of mine in passing, he liked the idea (since he also has a ex) but said he would need to hire a Geena Davis look-alike Rolling Eyes Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Migrant

My alimoney is none existant. She got the house (plus the mortgage) most of my money (hidden off shore I thought) and I'm obliged to pay her 1 pound sterling a year which I default on

Guess things are different in CA

Incidentally where can you go for a smoke (legal one that is) in CA?

Know you can't smoke on the beach anymore. Guess what you do is swim out a few metres with a plastic bag with your smokes in and light up and wave one finger in the air to all and sundry on the beach
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My alimoney is none existant. She got the house (plus the mortgage) most of my money (hidden off shore I thought) and I'm obliged to pay her 1 pound sterling a year which I default on

Guess things are different in CA


They certainly are! Originally divorced in the state of Maine, I gave her 90% of the assets in lieu of alimony. We both moved back to California, she takes me to court and despite the agreement, and despite the gap in our earnings shrinking, the judge gave her alimony!

He basically told me to work overtime!


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Incidentally where can you go for a smoke (legal one that is) in CA?

Know you can't smoke on the beach anymore. Guess what you do is swim out a few metres with a plastic bag with your smokes in and light up and wave one finger in the air to all and sundry on the beach


Very Happy That about sums it up, although I think they are pushing for international limits now, 3 miles
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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90% and then alimony!! Get your ass out of CA and get to Thailand asap

3 miles out? I'm a good swimmer but after a couple of smokes that far out I'd need a boat to get me back!!!

Years since I've been to the states but loved it. Done the east coast including Maine, Chicago where I worked for Johnson Wax and CA where I spent 5 weeks in a 30 foot camper trawling down to Mex then Grand Canyon, Vagas, Death valley and then cruised down the coast back to LA

Great country, but like all, changing rapidly

Had a great boss from CA when I worked for Hewlett Packard who taught me how to chill out

trouble is I'm now too chilled
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