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Joni Specialist


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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Boring boring boring Arsenal. _________________ Blackburn Rovers, pride of East Lancashire.
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Thai Tam Specialist

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 104 Location: Coventry, England
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Typical of our away performances in the CL - bad luck combined with poor play = defeat. All of the teams have given themselves a chance which probably reflects the quality of the group
Yes I am now looking forward to the Man Utd game as I do all European games at Parkhead and unlike most, I will be there.
BB, Sorry to disagree but this will not be the final countdown, even if we win, simply another outcome of an ongoing battle.
The good thing is a) we were poor tonight and b) we still have some of our key players to come back for the next two games - I know Man Utd will say the same. We can still qualify, it is in our hands.
And yes I truly hope the best teams do win.
Tam _________________ Hail! Hail! |
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3568 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I started this thread as an alternative to the Celtic thread but it has mobed alongside. Not surprising really as it is the most interesting right now with not only two British teams in the group but ist is still open.
I personal hope that Celtic make it a hatrick of home wins and send Manure south with their tails behind ther legs. If Celtic fail to win then the number of if and buts becomes uncountable with only Manure guaranteed a place. Anyway all will be revealed ijn a couple of weeks. Celtic can and must beat Manure next and then be able to travel to Denmark to a much better chance than even of qualifying.
On another related topic, I have been trawling through various websites trying to find the qualifyng criteria but cannot. Does anybody know. In a points draw who comes first the team with the better record against the other or the team with the highest goal difference.
As for Chelsea. it was publicised that only a draw was needed which they got. Many people have said since that Chelsea have indeed qualified except the BBC. When I checked the figures the BBC are right. Chelsea are not through technically yet. _________________
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chelsea Ace


Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 1331 Location: Perth West Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Trotter Wrote: | Quote: | Benfica are not the force they once were, and Copenhagen never were a force.
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A look at todays results: Benfica 3 Celtic 0 & FC Copenhagen 1 Manure 0.
Trotter, that was not the best days tipping and has now thrown the group open. I would still think Manure will qualify, but will be hard for Celtic from now on.
Another solid performance from Chelsea again, 4 out of 6 points from Barcelona was a good return and should ensure passage to the next round of matches
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Ken Specialist

Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 193 Location: Hua Hin
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Thai Tam wrote: | Typical of our away performances in the CL - bad luck combined with poor play = defeat. All of the teams have given themselves a chance which probably reflects the quality of the group
Yes I am now looking forward to the Man Utd game as I do all European games at Parkhead and unlike most, I will be there.
BB, Sorry to disagree but this will not be the final countdown, even if we win, simply another outcome of an ongoing battle.
The good thing is a) we were poor tonight and b) we still have some of our key players to come back for the next two games - I know Man Utd will say the same. We can still qualify, it is in our hands.
And yes I truly hope the best teams do win.
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Are you going to your home game with Inverness next Saturday? Think we will be without our goalkeeper who got sent off today so hope you don't score too many. I will be in one of the seats below you, as normal. All organised. Will give you a wave.
Ooooooops, sorry, a bit of topic but important to Tam and I. |
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Thai Tam Specialist

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 104 Location: Coventry, England
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Hi Ken,
I will know aorund Wednesday/Thursday when we begin to call each other - Mick our main driver travels up from London and he'll let me know then. Maybe have Calum with me!!!
Was at the Hearts game last week - poor game, but the climax was incredible and made for a good journey back down South.
If I go to the game I'll call you and you can give me a wave - I sit up and to the left of the Directors' box.
Take care and have a safe journey.
All the best,
Tam _________________ Hail! Hail! |
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Jockey Legend


Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 2135
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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On another related topic, I have been trawling through various websites trying to find the qualifyng criteria but cannot. Does anybody know. In a points draw who comes first the team with the better record against the other or the team with the highest goal difference.
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Straight from the UEFA site:
If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine rankings. If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine rankings.
a)Higher number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams in question.
b)Superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question.
c)Higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question.
d)Superior goal difference from all group matches played.
e)Higher number of goals scored.
f)Higher number of coefficient points accumulated by the club in question as well as it's association, over the previous five seasons |
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3568 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lets us hope it does not get to option f. _________________
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Thai Tam Specialist

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 104 Location: Coventry, England
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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As they say, the record books don't lie.
I'm sure Fergie is happy for his dad!
If Paradise was half as nice......
Now for the Hibees _________________ Hail! Hail! |
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Ken Specialist

Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 193 Location: Hua Hin
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Jockey"] | Guess wrote: |
On another related topic, I have been trawling through various websites trying to find the qualifyng criteria but cannot. Does anybody know. In a points draw who comes first the team with the better record against the other or the team with the highest goal difference.
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Straight from the UEFA site:
If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine rankings. If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine rankings.
a)Higher number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams in question.
b)Superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question.
c)Higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question.
d)Superior goal difference from all group matches played.
e)Higher number of goals scored.
f)Higher number of coefficient points accumulated by the club in question as well as it's association, over the previous five seasons[/quote
Rule c is the one that ensures Celtic qualify. Last Saturday I was chatting to the Celtic finance director about the first Man U game and he was commenting on the fact that although it had been a good game, Celtic hadn't won any points. I replied that perhaps the close 3-2 scoreline might help later but I said it without any real conviction. Great night for Celtic and a continuation of a quite remarkable home record. I understand the best in Europe! Agreed Guess, rule f would not have been much use in the circumstances. |
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Jockey Legend


Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 2135
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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So, as predicted earlier - Celtic to WIN the group! not such a fanciful idea now eh! Next? Bring on Arsenal or Chelsea (we love playing English opposition). Ha ha ha ha ha
(Sorry folks - must be allowed a little indulgence every now and then!)  |
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Trotter Amateur

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 34 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| chelsea wrote: | Trotter Wrote: | Quote: | Benfica are not the force they once were, and Copenhagen never were a force.
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A look at todays results: Benfica 3 Celtic 0 & FC Copenhagen 1 Manure 0.
Trotter, that was not the best days tipping and has now thrown the group open. I would still think Manure will qualify, but will be hard for Celtic from now on.
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Does not seem such a bad day of tipping now does it?
Good luck to the Blues in their quest for European gold. _________________ Trotter |
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3568 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Jockey wrote: | Bring on Arsenal or Chelsea (we love playing English opposition)
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You really are a glutton for punishment Jockey and don't forget you can still meet Manure again where this time they will be out for revenge.
If I were a Celtic Supporter the last thing I would want is to meet an English team in the second round. But as I said on your own thread on Celtic v Manu, before you highjacked this one, it looks like a very realistic chance that that will happen.
I would personally rather see Chelsea slaughter Celtic later on in the competition. Maybe even the final. _________________
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Jockey Legend


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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Guess wrote: | | Jockey wrote: | Bring on Arsenal or Chelsea (we love playing English opposition)
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I would personally rather see Chelsea slaughter Celtic later on in the competition. Maybe even the final. |
I'd take that scenario! |
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JimmyGreaves Guru


Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 682
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:21 am Post subject: |
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I would personally rather see Chelsea slaughter Celtic later on in the competition. Maybe even the final. |
I would personally be with the reverse result and would like to use the phrase 'annihilate chelsea' instead |
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