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johnny Novice

Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: Can a bar girl be faithfull? |
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| I've had several trips to Hua Hin and fell for a bar girl, she said she wants out of the bar scene but needs financial help to do it. This girl was'nt like the other bar girls i had met before and i genuinly thought she would be faithfull to me. So i agreed to send her money thinking i would be helping her. After many nice phone calls she has now dissapeared without a word and none of her friends seem to know where she's gone. I can't help asking my self, "Have I let myself get too involved?" |
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johnnyk Ace

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: |
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She is gone so you aren't involved.
You have now passed BG101. 
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rosso Specialist


Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 172 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Hello
there are thousands of other farangs which have the same story.
If she wants something really from you she will call you again.
But maybe she called 10 others for money and now she is somewhere...
Maybe there is something urgent and she will call you in some days..
Maybe....
regards
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Farang Guru

Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 701
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: troll |
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"Feedeth not Ye Trolle!"
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3568 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Also Ye Trolle needeth. _________________
Remember. A turkey is for life not just for Christmas |
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johnny Novice

Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| You could say maybe a million times Rosso but the reality is the girls played me, but hey you live and learn! I read some thing on bangkok bob called "Bar girls 10 comandments" its amusing but very true, a must for any one getting involved with a bar girl. oh well if the trolle needeth its hadeth. |
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Guess Legend


Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 3568 Location: BangSaphan. Laurasia. Sub thumb
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Johnny,
Just to put into persective for anybody who reads this forum. I used to live in Pattaya, (through absolutley no fault of my own I might add) and I kept my body and all of my worldy goods there for about three, years.
My fellow tennants in the apartment (tenament in the US and Pensione in France) were all BGs and retired Germans. Of course we all got to know each other. The BG experience was an eye opener. They all had a story to tell. Most of their there stories related to farang. My Thai was fairly limited but between myself and my German drinking partners we managed to all commuincate quite well.
Some of the girls had a number of guys sending money and used to come to me for translation and advice. They had got to know that my English was OK, I was not in the slightest bit interested in women and that I could be trusted.
At first I felt uncomfortable but after visiting some of the areas that these girls come from and seeing the life style that their families live with I became sympathetic and even told them what lies to tell to there farang "boyfriends" in England, Sweden, Denmark, Canada etc. etc. etc. And helped them organize their diaries to avoid conflicts.
So, moral of this story is: for every beneficiary there is a benefactor.
Good for you so long as you keep your eyes open and your mind active. _________________
Remember. A turkey is for life not just for Christmas |
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chelsea Ace


Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 1332 Location: Perth West Australia
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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There is a saying in the UK that "A Fool is very easily parted from his money".
Johnny, this so applies to you. We all know the score with sending money, presents etc before entering Thailand. You are just another statisric,
Learn from it and move on
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johnnyk Ace

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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The two biggest myths about BGs and falangs:
1) She is different - no, she is a BG samasame other BGs
2) You are different - no, you are a wallet samasame other wallets |
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Burger Ace

Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 1115 Location: Hua Hin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Excellent, if I had a Heineken for everytime I heard that .......
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lomuamart Moderator

Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 4705 Location: hua hin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Guess wrote: | Johnny,
Just to put into persective for anybody who reads this forum. I used to live in Pattaya, (through absolutley no fault of my own I might add) and I kept my body and all of my worldy goods there for about three, years.
My fellow tennants in the apartment (tenament in the US and Pensione in France) were all BGs and retired Germans. Of course we all got to know each other. The BG experience was an eye opener. They all had a story to tell. Most of their there stories related to farang. My Thai was fairly limited but between myself and my German drinking partners we managed to all commuincate quite well.
Some of the girls had a number of guys sending money and used to come to me for translation and advice. They had got to know that my English was OK, I was not in the slightest bit interested in women and that I could be trusted.
At first I felt uncomfortable but after visiting some of the areas that these girls come from and seeing the life style that their families live with I became sympathetic and even told them what lies to tell to there farang "boyfriends" in England, Sweden, Denmark, Canada etc. etc. etc. And helped them organize their diaries to avoid conflicts.
So, moral of this story is: for every beneficiary there is a benefactor.
Good for you so long as you keep your eyes open and your mind active. |
The only thing I'd pull you up on here is that fact that you were helping in the subterfuge. I had a bar here years ago, with 13 girls. They regularly asked me to write letters. I never did. Suppose it's a personal decision. If you don't do it, someone else will. _________________ "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars - the rest I just squandered". George Best. |
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tuktukmike Guru

Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 525
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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I am sure this same subject has come up before.
We all know the score out here or at least should do.
Sure the girls play the game and many get money sent every month from farangs around the world.
Can they be faithfull or trusted, yes/no who cares.
There are plenty of us who come out here and also play the game, there are many guys who will take a girl short time or just a week and then change them when the mood desires.
So just maybe this makes the farang guy just as bad, I do know of many girls who have waited for their farang boyfriend to do all he promised and then be let down.
For the farang the term is Thai Fever, this is when a guy comes out here and is surrounded by women who in his own country would not look twice at him.
This has the affect of making the guy promise his new found love the earth even though he has empty pockets, it also stops his brain workin normally and will throw his years savings around like confetti.
So on a different slant maybe we could also ask, can you trust a Farang?.
To be honest i think the 2 groups well and truly deserve eachother.
If this did not happen where would we get our fun stories from.
Mike.
Ps, or the short answer. About as much as we can be trusted.  |
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Burger Ace

Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 1115 Location: Hua Hin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with Mike, we (Farang men) are the biggest hypocrits going.
We expect a Thai lady to be religously faithful to us, while we are out there doing the exact opposite. *Obviously this does not apply to all farangs, before you jump down my throat*
I wouldn't mind betting there are far more instances of farang's saying "yes ofcourse I'll come back to your bar and take you tomorrow night" or "yes ofcourse I'm coming back to Thailand in 6 months time to see you again" than there is of them tucking us up for a few lousy Baht.
It's a big game, and they are far more skilled at it than we are. All you need to do is make sure you enjoy your part of the game.
*Rant ends here*
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Burger Ace

Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 1115 Location: Hua Hin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Oh and to answer the original question, I think they can be faithful providing you treat them well enough and provide a reasonable standard of living for them/offer them a bit of security for their future.
If you don't apply the above then have no fears that many of them, not all mind, will be offski when a better offer comes along.
Their number one priority seems to be to take care of their family/kids etc, not some farang who only lets them drink water in the bar while he has beer (yes I've actually seen that several times).
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johnnyk Ace

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| tuktukmike wrote: |
To be honest i think the 2 groups well and truly deserve eachother.
Ps, or the short answer. About as much as we can be trusted.  |
Indeed.
The "relationships" usually rest on a foundation of need (financial on one side, emotional on the other), lies, deceit, booze, cultural ignorance and suspicion on both sides. No wonder only 1 in a 1000 succeed.
That said, enjoy! |
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