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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Buy a condo & rent out Reply with quote

I have read many of the topics in this section and I think I am starting to get some idea of some of the issues. I am looking for feedback on the idea of buying a condo and then leasing it out for most of the year. For now I would only be interested in occupying it for at most a month and it would be off season. Has anyone done this and had success in purchasing a waterfront condo and having the mortgage paid off over time by leasing it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Buy a condo & rent out Reply with quote

derf1 wrote:
I have read many of the topics in this section and I think I am starting to get some idea of some of the issues. I am looking for feedback on the idea of buying a condo and then leasing it out for most of the year. For now I would only be interested in occupying it for at most a month and it would be off season. Has anyone done this and had success in purchasing a waterfront condo and having the mortgage paid off over time by leasing it out.


Derf - There are many agencies in Hua Hin (I'm not one of them), who would gladly rent your condo out charging you commision of course. A good condo can coin in a large amount for 2 / 4 week periods but could also stay empty if you don't get your marketing or agency right. Condos are also very expensive now in relation to what they were 4 years ago, but they represent (IMO) an excellent investment, particularly because of the legal issues with property, many think the condo prices are set to rise dramatically.

I noted you asked about paying off the mortgage. It would be very difficult for a Ferang (foreigner) to buy a condo using a mortgage. The Thai banks would insist you have a non immigration B visa, collatoral, proof of income in Thailand etc. The decision on the loan could take 3 months by which time the condo could be sold to someone else!

A 7 million baht condo could demand rents of 50/60,000 baht per month (short term) or about 25/30,000 a month long term (6 months to 1 year).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jockey- thanxs for the reply, it gives good direction for more questions to ask and people to talk too. I think I can get funding outside of Thailand for mortgages but will come back with questions when I get answers to your thoughts. Thanxs and cheers
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get mortgages in the UK to buy abroad - in my case, if I so desire, by re-mortgaging on my house.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I am an expert but I would be very surprised if a British high street bank would lend against a property in Thailand. As you posted Caller, if you want a sterling mortgage for a property in Thailand you can re-mortgage against your UK home and release equity to pay for a property in LoS. That is exactly what we did.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to the above, some offshore banks will give you property loans secured against other investments you hold, such as pension funds, equities, or endowments.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read Jakob and Marck from 2nd homes estate agency have negotiated a deal with a Danish bank to organise mortgages.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Buy a condo & rent out Reply with quote

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derf1 wrote:


I noted you asked about paying off the mortgage. It would be very difficult for a Ferang (foreigner) to buy a condo using a mortgage. The Thai banks would insist you have a non immigration B visa, collatoral, proof of income in Thailand etc. The decision on the loan could take 3 months by which time the condo could be sold to someone else!



Bangkok Bank in Singapore seem very willnig to arrange Mortgages for Foreigners buying in Thailand.

A buddy of mine has done just that with a Condo in Cha Am. It seems they were also very professional ont he legal side of the purchase also.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jockey
What is a "non immigration B visa"? Is it attainable?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

derf1 wrote:
Hi Jockey
What is a "non immigration B visa"? Is it attainable?


Read more about it here: http://www.huahinafterdark.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4160
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the link. It has been very helpful especially if full time retirement were something that is being considered. The ramifications are significant.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: non im b visa Reply with quote

we obtained our non im 'b ' visa with the help of sunbelt asia , very easy no problems at all
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Up2U
What is sunbelt asia?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

derf1 wrote:
Dear Up2U
What is sunbelt asia?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jockey Thanks for the link. It looks like these folks do franchise and business establishment plans but there link show a legal part to their business as well, such as how to deal with the Visa Runs. Any idea if they deal only with people that are buying businesses.
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