Asia Cup 2007

redzonerocker · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: pen shootout

i've been involved in numerous pen shootouts at amateur level & its a nervy experience. that walk from the centre cirlce to the penalty spot is a long & lonely walk especially when the fate of your team is on your shoulders.
god knows what the pressure is like when its in front of millions of people worldwide. its not really football & far to much of a lottery.
if you play 30 mins of extra time & its still level, just keep playing & reduce the team by 2 men every 5 mins & the better, fitter team wins no doubt. it will also test the tactical nous of the manager by his decisions of who to take off.
i'm a traditionalist too baa baa & wouldnt like to see to many changes but in my opinion pens are not a fair way of settling a football match,after all, its a team game.even the golden goal rule was a slight improvement.
your lot may have a title chance this season, but then again, i have been saying that for the past five years Rolling Eyes

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Roel · Specialist Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Krabi

There already exist a rule (disallowing unsporting conduct) to prevent this corner flag thing in the dying minutes from happening but unfortunately it is never enforced. Another bad aspect is that the corner flag play is not only a matter of securing the result but it is often merely used to humiliate the opponents.

Regarding changing the rules UEFA/FIFA policy is clear (in theory): change the rules as little as possible. I agree with that (also in theory).
I was quite happy when they decided to abolish the most stupid rule ever introduced in football: the golden goal or sudden death or whatever. On most occasions the extra time gives us another 30 minutes of dull play with both teams not wanting to take any risks. And this gets even worse with a rule like that. And IF - by some lucky chance - a goal was scored the exciting action could begin because now the trailing team had to go for it. But oh no, do not let that happen: golden goal......let's call it a day.
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redzonerocker · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: golden goal

fair enough roel, but what about teams that actually play for a penalty shootout?
i would prefer football to be played to the bitter end & by reducing the sides down in set timescales, to 10 , 9 , 8 or even 7 a side then the team will win or lose together. its pretty traumatic for the player that misses the penalty that condemns his team to defeat.
i agree that we shouldnt change the beautiful game to much! thumbs up

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Roel · Specialist Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Krabi

Reducing the number of players would not only be a major change of the rules but it would have a huge impact on the character and the essence of football.
But if you are into rigorous changes then what about this idea (unpractical I know but it would be fun):
After 90 minutes there is a penalty shoot out. AFTER that 30 minutes of extra time is played. If the extra time results in a draw (and only then) the result of the penalty shoot out is taken into account.
This will guarantee 30 extra minutes of attractive attacking football since one team is virtually trailing due to the shoot out result, but on the other hand nothing is decided yet.
Takes the pressure of the penalty takers a bit too, because they know they will have another 30 minutes to repair the damage if necessary.
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prcscct · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject:

Scores updated in Post #1. Australia is in trouble.

Thailand vs Australia Monday at 1930 hours, that 7:30 PM LOMU this time. Very Happy