45 million people are eligible to vote

tigger · Member Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 60

Norseman.. you English??????? You are quite right, I never ever did any voting in my life... at least not in england anyway. Just couldnt see the point of either keeping one d...head there or putting in another. As for History.. there are many , many things i'm very proud of about my Heritage, but I was obviously refering to the present. And my appologies but the thread drifted toward constitution's and I just wanted to point out what this could lead to.

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DawnHRD · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:36 am Post subject:

STEVE G · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:41 am Post subject:

caller · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:50 am Post subject:

And staying off thread - apologies (maybe this should be split)?

Dawn, if there was an election called shortly, I honestly wouldn't know who to vote for.

Labour have messed up big time on law and order, the european invasion and uncontrolled immigration from elsewhere. I truly wonder sometimes what country I am living in. I hate the massive visual impact of muslims in the area I work. That didn't exist 2-3 years ago. But I do support Labour 100% on the introduction of ID cards (that's a professional & personal view) as do the majority of the British public.

However, the Tories (and Lib-Dems, but they don't count) are against it. On the whole Cameron seems to be too liberal for a country where there is finally even a shift amongst the chattering classes against such ideals which are now generally believed to have been wrong and a cause of too many of the current ill's. For example a murderer has just won his fight against deportation having murdered a headmaster, as it would breach his human rights! Nothing wrong with the judiciary on that, they're just following a law introduced by Govt. But to the public at large its just another broken straw. Apart from introducing a new border force, the tories don't seem to have anything to offer and in particular, on the big issues. Cameron recently went on a fact finding tour to Africa as England and his constituency flooded.

In short, I don't feel there is anyone representing me. A lot of people I know, from diverse backgrounds, feel the same.

There seems to be a huge gulf between the general public and the Govt. the Judiciary and those damned chattering classes!
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DawnHRD · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:15 am Post subject:

Sorry - still off topic & I'm not sure how to split it! Embarassed

Take your point, Caller, and I'll be the first to admit that I'm hopelessly out of touch with UK now, which is why, even though I could vote by proxy, I don't. I wouldn't impose my vote on a country that I know virtually nothing about.

However (getting even more hopelessly off topic) before the last US Presidential Election, there was a campaign by women celebrities to try to get women to vote. IMO, it was shameful the number of women who didn't vote & never had. As a woman, I am aware that we have had the vote for only a century, and already some women are shrugging off their say & their voice, which their predecessors fought so hard to get them.

Reading tigger's post made me realise that this might also be the case in UK (voter apathy in general) and it made me wonder if the political situation would be different, if more people did take voting seriously. If there are people in UK (of any age) who have never voted because they couldn't see the point, I wonder if the current political situation is partly because they didn't care enough to put their view forward. Maybe some different people would have been voted into local seats, who could have become good leaders & instituted decent policies. Who knows?
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tigger · Member Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 60

I totally agree that throughout History, the right to offer a vote as a common man has been well received. However, that right also extends to the right to abstain. I agree also with Dawn , that probably not enough people take voting serious enough as they feel they cannot make a difference with a single vote........ Guilty as charged..... My apologies for veering off topic.

ps. Yes I did realise that Norseman wasn't English. His sarcastic comment regarding my voting habit's backfired didn't it.

Norseman · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:

tigger · Member Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 60

Norseman, You are quite right and I stand corrected. I think your last post hit the mark and put me in my place. Taken on the chin. I retract my silly remark regarding voters... each to their own. I do have very strong views on this subject and got carried away. Tanks for putting me right Cheers

buksida · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject:

Can we keep this one back on topic and start any discussions regarding UK politics in Foo please.

As expected most of the Thakisn supporters voted against it and the rest of the country for it - no surprises there then, there is still a big divide in the Kingdom. Let hope it speeds the path to the elections and another nationalistic populist party of old codgers don't get in.
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Terry · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject:

Sorry Buksi........... but

buksida · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject:

Yeah I should have highlighted the word hope.

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